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PostSubject: Master Money Shot : toys   Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:18 pm

So I have moved again... for what now appears to be the second to last time.

I am building my first house... in the meantime renting nearby the build site.

I still have not broken ground, but after re-deciding the site 3 times, I think it's finally settled: about 50 feet below the ridge line, on the southeast side.

The main plan is to make it as environmentally un-impact-ful as possible. Fully half of the roof and approximately half of the house will be underground. The exposed external and internal structure will be based on a timber frame. The rock work will be limited to only as many rocks as are harvested from the site. The split rail fence will be limited to only the timber felled from the site.



The energy issue is still in debate, but generally, as much as I can afford.

Being atop a mountain, the solar panels will never get full capacity. So, I am leaning towards a minimal amount on the side of the house with the best view of the sun... and the (reflections at) gazebo in the pond.

A small windmill is still under serious consideration. The main concern is the winds atop a mountain are often near-hurricane levels... and in the past have been known to shred many a windmill. The other concern is that even the smallest windmill would still provide far more power than needed. (selling back to the grid sounds like a headache)

There are a mass of natural springs on the property... water could be the best source. But it may involve right of way issues. How do you convince someone that re-routing and harnessing water can be good for them?

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PostSubject: Re: Master Money Shot : toys   Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:29 pm

Selling back to the grid is probably what you have to do, otherwise you will need like 2 million dollars worth of batteries and converters and stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Master Money Shot : toys   Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:00 pm

I moved in Feb, it sucked truck loads of ass. Life is finally settling down again though. How's the rest of life treating you toys?
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PostSubject: Re: Master Money Shot : toys   Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:10 pm

uuuh pics???
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PostSubject: Re: Master Money Shot : toys   Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:13 pm

I think I mod this forum, I think toys blog should be called "Money Shot".
I think that would be funny.
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PostSubject: Re: Master Money Shot : toys   Thu May 01, 2008 9:32 pm

Hey Toys, Have you got rich without telling us? that sounds like its going to cost a fair bit. seriously tho, good luck I'm fascininated with self build and wish I had the means. One day may be.
Here in the UK we have a TV show called 'Grand designs' which I love. All about self builds and 'eco-friendly' projects like your own. I had a quick look on uTorrent and there a few torrents on there for the show. You should check them out, it might be useful.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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PostSubject: Re: Master Money Shot : toys   Fri May 02, 2008 10:41 am

The housing market in the US is all but fuct at the moment.
Yeah, good luck toys. I don't mean that as a dig or anything, just do your homework and stay out of trouble.
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PostSubject: Re: Master Money Shot : toys   Fri May 02, 2008 9:58 pm

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Selling back to the grid is probably what you have to do, otherwise you will need like 2 million dollars worth of batteries and converters and stuff.


If I do solar, I won't do more than I need. I am leaning towards 25-30% of my total needs. I think that is about as much as I can easily afford. Then I would need minimal batteries. With wind, the investment will have to be huge... but it will make my money back much sooner. If I went total solar, it would cost around 100K... and in 30 years I would break even. With a windmill, it could be as quickly as 10-15 years. I won't know what the water value is until we've done more experimenting with the underground springs.

I think I am leaning towards a combination of solar and water, at least for now. (Unless wind can be done on a smaller scale, cost effectively) And staying a part of the grid in case of emergency.

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PostSubject: Re: Master Money Shot : toys   Fri May 02, 2008 10:00 pm

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I moved in Feb, it sucked truck loads of ass. Life is finally settling down again though. How's the rest of life treating you toys?


Does life ever really settle down.

Overall, I have never been happier. But I have been disappointed in myself recently, in that I have been letting the little things get under my skin. Normally, everything bounces off... is it weak that my skin doesn't feel very thick.

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PostSubject: Re: Master Money Shot : toys   Fri May 02, 2008 10:09 pm

Jnon wrote:
uuuh pics???


Oh, that's a good idea. I'll get some pics of the build site... it will be cell phone quality though. (my camera is still packed)

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PostSubject: Re: Master Money Shot : toys   Fri May 02, 2008 10:10 pm

twisteroo wrote:
I think I mod this forum, I think toys blog should be called "Money Shot".
I think that would be funny.


I think I could live with that, but let the record show that I prefer master.

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PostSubject: Re: Master Money Shot : toys   Fri May 02, 2008 10:15 pm

M4rm1te. wrote:
Hey Toys, Have you got rich without telling us? that sounds like its going to cost a fair bit. seriously tho, good luck I'm fascinated with self build and wish I had the means. One day may be.
Here in the UK we have a TV show called 'Grand designs' which I love. All about self builds and 'eco-friendly' projects like your own. I had a quick look on uTorrent and there a few torrents on there for the show. You should check them out, it might be useful.
Good luck and keep us posted.


No lotto winner here... just planning to attach myself to a mortgage until I die. To do it right, I would need to spend at least 3 or 4 times what I can afford now. So, I am willing to sacrifice floor space in order to afford more eco-friendliness. Even though it will be costly, it will also be minimal.

Thanks for the show title, I will check it out.

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PostSubject: Re: Master Money Shot : toys   Fri May 02, 2008 10:17 pm

twisteroo wrote:
The housing market in the US is all but fuct at the moment.
Yeah, good luck toys. I don't mean that as a dig or anything, just do your homework and stay out of trouble.


I will not be using a general contractor. I will be subbing out the work.

In some sense, I have been researching this for about 10 years (tldr). Realistically, I made the decision to build (just recently) because buying is so scary.

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PostSubject: Re: Master Money Shot : toys   Fri May 02, 2008 11:01 pm

It just occurred to me that I called a 'Television programme' A 'TV show'.
WTF is wrong with me. I apologise. Very Happy X
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PostSubject: Re: Master Money Shot : toys   Sat May 03, 2008 8:04 pm

I'd be ready to build a sod house on the prarie if I were starting over.

I think that Master Money Shot sound official.
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